Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als Soldatin gespielt werden; Geschichte soll "geschlechtsneutral" sein
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Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als Soldatin gespielt werden; Geschichte soll "geschlechtsneutral" sein
Bei Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 wird man die (kooperativ spielbare) Kampagne auch komplett als Soldatin bestreiten können, erklärten Mark Lamia (Chef von Treyarch) und Jason Blundell (Executive Producer) im Rahmen einer Interviewrunde. Auch Vierer-Teams, die ausschließlich aus weiblichen Charakteren bestehen, sollen möglich sein. Die Entwickler sagten weiter, dass sie die Animationen für die weiblic...
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Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Da es in der Zukunft spielt ist es auch in Ordnung, ich meine bis dahin können weibliche körperliche Defizite mit bionischen Updates kompensiert werden.

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Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Eine "geschlechsneutrale" Gesichte - das hab ich auch noch nicht gehört.
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Dann müsste es auch eine Homo-Kampagne geben, mit Emotionen wie "Hauptquartier an JayJay, wir haben Mendoza... er versteckt sich in einem Hinterhalt in Anallabad..." "Ok Tschiiieef, ich kriech in seine Höhle und gib ihm, was er verdient"PanzerGrenadiere hat geschrieben:großes bullshit-battle mit bioware?
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
na hoffentlich krieg ich nicht mitten im Gefecht meine Tage
HQ an Sgt. Woman, bitte melden 'over'
nee so schon mal garnicht 'over'
HQ an Sgt. Woman, bitte melden 'over'
nee so schon mal garnicht 'over'
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Könnte eigentlich ein nettes Thema für ein Cyberpunk Setting sein, wie Augmentationen die physischen Unterschiede immer mehr aufweichen und wie die Menschen darauf reagieren.Raksoris hat geschrieben:Da es in der Zukunft spielt ist es auch in Ordnung, ich meine bis dahin können weibliche körperliche Defizite mit bionischen Updates kompensiert werden.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Was hat das für einen Charme, wenn sich ein Spiel einer Idee unterordnen muss, die das Marketing für unabdingbar hält?
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Och Leute, all die Aufregung, und dabei ist die Geschlechtswahl als Feature auch bei der Enzelspielerkampagne zu einem Modern Military Shooter keine so neue Sache, siehe R6 Vegas 2. Geschadet hat es der Kampagne nich, das war eher das Leveldesign.
Und geschlechtsneutrale Geschichten sind bei Videospielen weit verbreitet - nehmen wir bspw. den Plot von Advanced Warfare:
Welches für den Plot wichtige Storyelement setzt da voraus, dass Pvt. Mitchell männlich ist?
Und geschlechtsneutrale Geschichten sind bei Videospielen weit verbreitet - nehmen wir bspw. den Plot von Advanced Warfare:
Spoiler
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(shameless copypaste von wikipedia)
In 2054, Private Jack Mitchell (Troy Baker) of the United States Marine Corps, along with Private Will Irons (Paul Telfer) and group leader Sergeant Cormack (Russell Richardson), participates in a battle against North Koreans in Seoul. During the counterattack, Will is killed in action, while Mitchell's left arm is severed, forcing him to be discharged from military service. After attending Will's funeral service, Mitchell is offered a position with the Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey), Will's father. Mitchell is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace his lost one.
Meanwhile, a terrorist group known as the KVA, led by a technophobic man named Joseph "Hades" Chkheidze (Sharif Ibrahim), begins staging numerous terrorist attacks, with the world turning to Atlas to stop them. Mitchell, along with Gideon (Gideon Emery), Joker (Jeremy Kent Jackson) and other Atlas soldiers rescue the Nigerian prime minister and later capture a KVA technologist in Lagos, Nigeria during a technology summit. However, by 2055, the KVA's attacks have become more sophisticated and Mitchell and his team fail to prevent the KVA from forcing a nuclear reactor meltdown on Bainbridge Island, Washington. The KVA launch simultaneous attacks against nuclear power plants worldwide, irradiating numerous cities, killing thousands of people and putting national governments and militaries in turmoil. Atlas emerges as the dominant military force in the world by aiding civilians affected by the attacks and holding back the KVA's rampage.
Four years later in 2059, Mitchell and Gideon search an abandoned downtown Detroit, Michigan to find Dr. Pierre Danois (Erik Passoja), the KVA's second-in-command. After Ilona (Angela Gots), an ex-Spetsnaz Atlas operative, interrogates the doctor, the team tracks Hades to Santorini, Greece, where KVA leaders are holding a conference. Mitchell corners Hades and fatally wounds him. With his last breath, Hades utters "Irons knows," and gives Mitchell a data chip.
Ilona analyzes the chip, only to find out that Irons killed the technologist they captured in Nigeria after Irons learned of the KVA global attack, proving that he deliberately allowed the attacks to occur to improve Atlas' reputation and power. Irons attempts to have Mitchell and Ilona arrested, but they escape Atlas' headquarters in the rebuilt Baghdad (called New Baghdad), guided by a mysterious soldier, while Gideon stays by Irons' side for further investigation. The mysterious soldier reveals himself to be Mitchell's old squad leader, Cormack, who is now a member of the Sentinel Task Force, an international effort initially created to investigate the KVA power plant attacks, but now repurposed to prevent Atlas' rise to power.
In 2060, Mitchell, now a Sentinel, joins Cormack, Ilona, and Knox (Khary Payton) to infiltrate Irons' private residence in Bangkok. The team discovers that Dr. Danois (now working under the alias Bellamy) is collaborating with Irons on "Manticore", a bio-weapon. They set up a tracker on a plane carrying the bio-weapon bound for Argentina. Sentinel later intercepts the plane, which crashes in Antarctica. Gideon appears and helps the Sentinels defeat the Atlas soldiers. The team successfully retrieves the WMD and are able to retrieve a sample. After analyzing the sample, they discover that Manticore is a bio-weapon designed to attack the DNA of individuals and kills them except specific individuals, meaning Irons can use the weapon without risking harm to his own troops or people having their DNA record in ATLAS database. The Sentinels, now joined by Gideon, infiltrate and destroy an Atlas bio-weapons laboratory in Bulgaria, eliminating many of the Manticore samples.
With his plot revealed, Irons releases his ultimatum to remove all politicians, whom he thinks are the problem of the world, at the United Nations General Assembly and declares war on the world. The Sentinels discover that Irons is planning a preemptive strike on the United States and try to stop an Atlas attack on the country in San Francisco, California. Atlas destroys the Golden Gate Bridge, trapping the U.S. 3rd fleet in the Bay Area, and attempt to destroy the fleet in a single strike. The Sentinels use a railgun aboard an aircraft carrier to destroy the attacking Atlas ships. With the ultimatum and the attack on U.S. soil, the United States, along with the rest of the world, declares war against Atlas and Irons retreats to his headquarters in New Baghdad.
Seven months later, the Sentinels and the United States Army attack New Baghdad to bring Irons to justice. However, Atlas releases Manticore, killing Knox and most of the attacking troops. Mitchell, Ilona, and Gideon, whose DNA are recognized by Manticore as they are former Atlas soldiers, are spared, as well as Cormack, who was outside the blast radius. The four are brought to an Atlas prison camp, which also runs Manticore experiments on its inmates. The Sentinels escape, but Irons kills Cormack and severely damages Mitchell's prosthetic arm. As they escape the facility, they discover that Irons already has enough Manticore to attack every military base in the world and will be launching an ICBM loaded with the bio-weapon shortly.
Mitchell and Gideon launch a lone assault on the Atlas HQ while using heavily armored battlesuits and manage to destroy the ICBM. They find Irons as the other Sentinels prepare to bombard the building. Irons disables their exoskeletons, forcing Mitchell to release the exoskeleton to chase Irons. Mitchell tackles Irons off the building, but he hangs on to Mitchell's prosthetic arm. Mitchell severs his prosthetic, sending Irons falling to his death. As Gideon arrives to carry him out of the building, Mitchell notes that Irons' death was only the beginning and the war against Atlas is far from over.
In 2054, Private Jack Mitchell (Troy Baker) of the United States Marine Corps, along with Private Will Irons (Paul Telfer) and group leader Sergeant Cormack (Russell Richardson), participates in a battle against North Koreans in Seoul. During the counterattack, Will is killed in action, while Mitchell's left arm is severed, forcing him to be discharged from military service. After attending Will's funeral service, Mitchell is offered a position with the Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey), Will's father. Mitchell is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace his lost one.
Meanwhile, a terrorist group known as the KVA, led by a technophobic man named Joseph "Hades" Chkheidze (Sharif Ibrahim), begins staging numerous terrorist attacks, with the world turning to Atlas to stop them. Mitchell, along with Gideon (Gideon Emery), Joker (Jeremy Kent Jackson) and other Atlas soldiers rescue the Nigerian prime minister and later capture a KVA technologist in Lagos, Nigeria during a technology summit. However, by 2055, the KVA's attacks have become more sophisticated and Mitchell and his team fail to prevent the KVA from forcing a nuclear reactor meltdown on Bainbridge Island, Washington. The KVA launch simultaneous attacks against nuclear power plants worldwide, irradiating numerous cities, killing thousands of people and putting national governments and militaries in turmoil. Atlas emerges as the dominant military force in the world by aiding civilians affected by the attacks and holding back the KVA's rampage.
Four years later in 2059, Mitchell and Gideon search an abandoned downtown Detroit, Michigan to find Dr. Pierre Danois (Erik Passoja), the KVA's second-in-command. After Ilona (Angela Gots), an ex-Spetsnaz Atlas operative, interrogates the doctor, the team tracks Hades to Santorini, Greece, where KVA leaders are holding a conference. Mitchell corners Hades and fatally wounds him. With his last breath, Hades utters "Irons knows," and gives Mitchell a data chip.
Ilona analyzes the chip, only to find out that Irons killed the technologist they captured in Nigeria after Irons learned of the KVA global attack, proving that he deliberately allowed the attacks to occur to improve Atlas' reputation and power. Irons attempts to have Mitchell and Ilona arrested, but they escape Atlas' headquarters in the rebuilt Baghdad (called New Baghdad), guided by a mysterious soldier, while Gideon stays by Irons' side for further investigation. The mysterious soldier reveals himself to be Mitchell's old squad leader, Cormack, who is now a member of the Sentinel Task Force, an international effort initially created to investigate the KVA power plant attacks, but now repurposed to prevent Atlas' rise to power.
In 2060, Mitchell, now a Sentinel, joins Cormack, Ilona, and Knox (Khary Payton) to infiltrate Irons' private residence in Bangkok. The team discovers that Dr. Danois (now working under the alias Bellamy) is collaborating with Irons on "Manticore", a bio-weapon. They set up a tracker on a plane carrying the bio-weapon bound for Argentina. Sentinel later intercepts the plane, which crashes in Antarctica. Gideon appears and helps the Sentinels defeat the Atlas soldiers. The team successfully retrieves the WMD and are able to retrieve a sample. After analyzing the sample, they discover that Manticore is a bio-weapon designed to attack the DNA of individuals and kills them except specific individuals, meaning Irons can use the weapon without risking harm to his own troops or people having their DNA record in ATLAS database. The Sentinels, now joined by Gideon, infiltrate and destroy an Atlas bio-weapons laboratory in Bulgaria, eliminating many of the Manticore samples.
With his plot revealed, Irons releases his ultimatum to remove all politicians, whom he thinks are the problem of the world, at the United Nations General Assembly and declares war on the world. The Sentinels discover that Irons is planning a preemptive strike on the United States and try to stop an Atlas attack on the country in San Francisco, California. Atlas destroys the Golden Gate Bridge, trapping the U.S. 3rd fleet in the Bay Area, and attempt to destroy the fleet in a single strike. The Sentinels use a railgun aboard an aircraft carrier to destroy the attacking Atlas ships. With the ultimatum and the attack on U.S. soil, the United States, along with the rest of the world, declares war against Atlas and Irons retreats to his headquarters in New Baghdad.
Seven months later, the Sentinels and the United States Army attack New Baghdad to bring Irons to justice. However, Atlas releases Manticore, killing Knox and most of the attacking troops. Mitchell, Ilona, and Gideon, whose DNA are recognized by Manticore as they are former Atlas soldiers, are spared, as well as Cormack, who was outside the blast radius. The four are brought to an Atlas prison camp, which also runs Manticore experiments on its inmates. The Sentinels escape, but Irons kills Cormack and severely damages Mitchell's prosthetic arm. As they escape the facility, they discover that Irons already has enough Manticore to attack every military base in the world and will be launching an ICBM loaded with the bio-weapon shortly.
Mitchell and Gideon launch a lone assault on the Atlas HQ while using heavily armored battlesuits and manage to destroy the ICBM. They find Irons as the other Sentinels prepare to bombard the building. Irons disables their exoskeletons, forcing Mitchell to release the exoskeleton to chase Irons. Mitchell tackles Irons off the building, but he hangs on to Mitchell's prosthetic arm. Mitchell severs his prosthetic, sending Irons falling to his death. As Gideon arrives to carry him out of the building, Mitchell notes that Irons' death was only the beginning and the war against Atlas is far from over.
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Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Ist aber besonders bei Call of Duty normal.golgi hat geschrieben:Was hat das für einen Charme, wenn sich ein Spiel einer Idee unterordnen muss, die das Marketing für unabdingbar hält?
Frauen sind akzeptiert in der US Army und es melden sich scheinbar auch immer mehr
und da Call of Duty an sich eine einzige Werbung für die US Army ist richtet man das Spiel auch so aus.
Sogar der Call of Duty Chef Dave Anthony arbeitet eng mit dem Militär zusammen.
Alleine deswegen ist das Spiel für mich schon völlig Tabu weil man hier quasi die US Army mitfinanziert.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Och, Treyarch...Chance verpasst, am Ende der Kampagne Metroid zitieren zu können...Hauptfigur legt, umringt von brennenden Ölteppichen und mit einem Messer in der Brust (verursacht durch den obligatorischen, US-amerikanischen Verräter, dem man bis dahin traute und der über diverse russisch-arabisch-chinesisch-stämmige "Strohmänner" einen neuen Weltkrieg provozierte), seine = ihre Maske ab und enthüllt dadurch, dass das Geschlecht keine (bedeutende) Rolle spielt...für diese dramatische Story-Wendung wäre es kaufenswert...gewesen. 
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genau das ist der punkt. es ist für das spiel einfach mal scheissegal, aber betreibt dieses dümmliche marketing, weil dieses ganze gender-equality-frauensindauchmenschen-gedöns gerade so schön "in" ist. nach der homo-quote von bioware jetzt die nächste fremdschämkampagne.LePie hat geschrieben:Och Leute, all die Aufregung, und dabei ist die Geschlechtswahl als Feature auch bei der Enzelspielerkampagne zu einem Modern Military Shooter keine so neue Sache, siehe R6 Vegas 2. Geschadet hat es der Kampagne nich, das war eher das Leveldesign.![]()
Und geschlechtsneutrale Geschichten sind bei Videospielen weit verbreitet - nehmen wir bspw. den Plot von Advanced Warfare:Welches für den Plot wichtige Storyelement setzt da voraus, dass Pvt. Mitchell männlich ist?SpoilerShow(shameless copypaste von wikipedia)
In 2054, Private Jack Mitchell (Troy Baker) of the United States Marine Corps, along with Private Will Irons (Paul Telfer) and group leader Sergeant Cormack (Russell Richardson), participates in a battle against North Koreans in Seoul. During the counterattack, Will is killed in action, while Mitchell's left arm is severed, forcing him to be discharged from military service. After attending Will's funeral service, Mitchell is offered a position with the Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey), Will's father. Mitchell is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace his lost one.
Meanwhile, a terrorist group known as the KVA, led by a technophobic man named Joseph "Hades" Chkheidze (Sharif Ibrahim), begins staging numerous terrorist attacks, with the world turning to Atlas to stop them. Mitchell, along with Gideon (Gideon Emery), Joker (Jeremy Kent Jackson) and other Atlas soldiers rescue the Nigerian prime minister and later capture a KVA technologist in Lagos, Nigeria during a technology summit. However, by 2055, the KVA's attacks have become more sophisticated and Mitchell and his team fail to prevent the KVA from forcing a nuclear reactor meltdown on Bainbridge Island, Washington. The KVA launch simultaneous attacks against nuclear power plants worldwide, irradiating numerous cities, killing thousands of people and putting national governments and militaries in turmoil. Atlas emerges as the dominant military force in the world by aiding civilians affected by the attacks and holding back the KVA's rampage.
Four years later in 2059, Mitchell and Gideon search an abandoned downtown Detroit, Michigan to find Dr. Pierre Danois (Erik Passoja), the KVA's second-in-command. After Ilona (Angela Gots), an ex-Spetsnaz Atlas operative, interrogates the doctor, the team tracks Hades to Santorini, Greece, where KVA leaders are holding a conference. Mitchell corners Hades and fatally wounds him. With his last breath, Hades utters "Irons knows," and gives Mitchell a data chip.
Ilona analyzes the chip, only to find out that Irons killed the technologist they captured in Nigeria after Irons learned of the KVA global attack, proving that he deliberately allowed the attacks to occur to improve Atlas' reputation and power. Irons attempts to have Mitchell and Ilona arrested, but they escape Atlas' headquarters in the rebuilt Baghdad (called New Baghdad), guided by a mysterious soldier, while Gideon stays by Irons' side for further investigation. The mysterious soldier reveals himself to be Mitchell's old squad leader, Cormack, who is now a member of the Sentinel Task Force, an international effort initially created to investigate the KVA power plant attacks, but now repurposed to prevent Atlas' rise to power.
In 2060, Mitchell, now a Sentinel, joins Cormack, Ilona, and Knox (Khary Payton) to infiltrate Irons' private residence in Bangkok. The team discovers that Dr. Danois (now working under the alias Bellamy) is collaborating with Irons on "Manticore", a bio-weapon. They set up a tracker on a plane carrying the bio-weapon bound for Argentina. Sentinel later intercepts the plane, which crashes in Antarctica. Gideon appears and helps the Sentinels defeat the Atlas soldiers. The team successfully retrieves the WMD and are able to retrieve a sample. After analyzing the sample, they discover that Manticore is a bio-weapon designed to attack the DNA of individuals and kills them except specific individuals, meaning Irons can use the weapon without risking harm to his own troops or people having their DNA record in ATLAS database. The Sentinels, now joined by Gideon, infiltrate and destroy an Atlas bio-weapons laboratory in Bulgaria, eliminating many of the Manticore samples.
With his plot revealed, Irons releases his ultimatum to remove all politicians, whom he thinks are the problem of the world, at the United Nations General Assembly and declares war on the world. The Sentinels discover that Irons is planning a preemptive strike on the United States and try to stop an Atlas attack on the country in San Francisco, California. Atlas destroys the Golden Gate Bridge, trapping the U.S. 3rd fleet in the Bay Area, and attempt to destroy the fleet in a single strike. The Sentinels use a railgun aboard an aircraft carrier to destroy the attacking Atlas ships. With the ultimatum and the attack on U.S. soil, the United States, along with the rest of the world, declares war against Atlas and Irons retreats to his headquarters in New Baghdad.
Seven months later, the Sentinels and the United States Army attack New Baghdad to bring Irons to justice. However, Atlas releases Manticore, killing Knox and most of the attacking troops. Mitchell, Ilona, and Gideon, whose DNA are recognized by Manticore as they are former Atlas soldiers, are spared, as well as Cormack, who was outside the blast radius. The four are brought to an Atlas prison camp, which also runs Manticore experiments on its inmates. The Sentinels escape, but Irons kills Cormack and severely damages Mitchell's prosthetic arm. As they escape the facility, they discover that Irons already has enough Manticore to attack every military base in the world and will be launching an ICBM loaded with the bio-weapon shortly.
Mitchell and Gideon launch a lone assault on the Atlas HQ while using heavily armored battlesuits and manage to destroy the ICBM. They find Irons as the other Sentinels prepare to bombard the building. Irons disables their exoskeletons, forcing Mitchell to release the exoskeleton to chase Irons. Mitchell tackles Irons off the building, but he hangs on to Mitchell's prosthetic arm. Mitchell severs his prosthetic, sending Irons falling to his death. As Gideon arrives to carry him out of the building, Mitchell notes that Irons' death was only the beginning and the war against Atlas is far from over.
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Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Eigentlich könnte es auch heißen:"Kampagne wird in weiteren Multiplayer-Mode umgebaut und bietet wie seit Ghosts gewohnt weibliche Skins."
Aber wenn man es so formuliert, ist es halt PR-tauglicher und wie man an dem Artikel von Gamesrader sieht, geht das auch voll auf.
Damit will ich mich aber gar nicht zu sehr unter die Zyniker hier einreihen. Finde dieses System begrüßenswert und vielleicht gibt es ja irgendwann eine richtige Kampagne mit weiblicher Hauptfigur - oder vielleicht unterschätze ich auch was BlackOps3 dahingehend bieten wird.
Aber wenn man es so formuliert, ist es halt PR-tauglicher und wie man an dem Artikel von Gamesrader sieht, geht das auch voll auf.
Damit will ich mich aber gar nicht zu sehr unter die Zyniker hier einreihen. Finde dieses System begrüßenswert und vielleicht gibt es ja irgendwann eine richtige Kampagne mit weiblicher Hauptfigur - oder vielleicht unterschätze ich auch was BlackOps3 dahingehend bieten wird.
Zuletzt geändert von D_Sunshine am 28.04.2015 23:45, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - Kampagne kann komplatt als S
Raksoris hat geschrieben:Da es in der Zukunft spielt ist es auch in Ordnung, ich meine bis dahin können weibliche körperliche Defizite mit bionischen Updates kompensiert werden.


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Komplatt als Soldatin? Ich meine wirklich komplatt?
Wow. Da bin ich total plett!
Musste ich lachen. Kann mir das richtig gut vorstellen.
Wow. Da bin ich total plett!
na hoffentlich krieg ich nicht mitten im Gefecht meine Tage
HQ an Sgt. Woman, bitte melden 'over'
nee so schon mal garnicht 'over'

